[Stones] Shillingtong and Update of Churbie

[laurel demming]

I wrote a few weeks back and have a few more questions on supplementing Churbie's care with shilintong.
I have had him seen and he has another stone. I am frustrated because I just had one removed in October and here we are with another one!!
Against my better judgment I listened to this new vet and didnt use the shillingtong to prevent another formation.
We are currently treating Churbie with antibiotics and probiotics, and metacam for pain....until we can get him stable enough for removal of stone #3.
This vet practice has never heard of the herb and says I can use it at my own risk. All I know is he used it after stone #1 and didnt have another till a year and a half later. They site that he was much younger then, and attribute this as to why the long space between stones. Churbie is 3 years old now and so far seems to be hanging in there. Bloodwork came back normal but urine came back bad (So they are treating with antibiotics) 
Anyone out there with thoughts and success with shilintong?
Thanks again~ Laurel and Churbie
> From: stones-request at gpigs-database.org> Subject: Stones Digest, Vol 45, Issue 1> To: stones at gpigs-database.org> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:00:02 -0500> > Send Stones mailing list submissions to> stones at gpigs-database.org> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://gpigs-database.org/mailman/listinfo/stones_gpigs-database.org> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> stones-request at gpigs-database.org> > You can reach the person managing the list at> stones-owner at gpigs-database.org> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Stones digest..."> > > Guinea Pig Bladderstone Mailing List> > Today's Topics:> > 1. Chinese herbs (Petra)> 2. right link now (Petra)> 3. Re: Chinese herbs (ABCS)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 01:48:47 +0100> From: Petra <crazyaboutanimals at web.de>> Subject: [Stones] Chinese herbs> To: stones at gpigs-database.org> Message-ID: <4998B7EF.5040702 at web.de>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed> > Hello together,> > I have not written many years to this list.> > I am Petra, living since 2 years now in Switzerland.> > Tex, are you still there? Do you remember the mom of Leonie and the > other heartbreakers?> > We have lost the contact:-(> > Over five years ago, we had the last piggie with stones and now again > one, Viola will get in April 2 years old.> > She has a Bladderstone, we think it is a Struvit Stone, because under > Vitamin C, for the surgery (an?sthetic), the stone looked suddenly > "easier" so our Vet wanted to wait.> > Is anybody out there who treated his stonepiggie with Chinese herbs? Is > the medicine "Eurologist " known in the USA?> > / jinqiancao, lygodii japonici, dianthi, semen abutiloni seu malvae, > folium pyrrosia, semen plantaginis, talcum endithelium corneum gigeraiae > galli, glycyrrhizae uralensis.> > /These herbs should be able to put away all kind of stones.> > Do you have experience with this? Is it possible and not dangerous?> > This is the HP, where you can buy the Eurologist, there is an englisch > version too! Only must klick on the right flag.> > www.naturheilkunde-bei-tieren.de> > Please apologize my terrible English. Many years I have not written in > this language! I`m sorry!> > I would be happy, if I can get answers.> > Thanks very much in advance> > To you and your little ones all the best!> > Best wishes from nightly Switzerland> > Petra K. and the heartbreakers> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:26:54 +0100> From: Petra <crazyaboutanimals at web.de>> Subject: [Stones] right link now> To: stones at gpigs-database.org> Message-ID: <4998C0DE.8080603 at web.de>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed> > It`s me again:> > here the direct link in your language, to the maybe wonderdrug> > http://www.petherbs.co.uk/> > Good night!> > Best wishes> > Petra K. and the heartbreakers> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:13:26 -0500> From: ABCS <absiev at aol.com>> Subject: Re: [Stones] Chinese herbs> To: Petra <crazyaboutanimals at web.de>> Cc: stones at gpigs-database.org> Message-ID: <3B1B4915-10C7-4661-8530-8AFAE60096E0 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes> > Hi Petra, I remember you!> > To be honest, I would avoid Chinese herbal medications due to recent > reports of dangerous contaminants including toxins such as melamine > (kidney damage), micro-organisms and heavy metals> > > Amy> > > On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Petra wrote:> > > Hello together,> >> > I have not written many years to this list.> >> > I am Petra, living since 2 years now in Switzerland.> >> > Tex, are you still there? Do you remember the mom of Leonie and the > > other heartbreakers?> >> > We have lost the contact:-(> >> > Over five years ago, we had the last piggie with stones and now > > again one, Viola will get in April 2 years old.> >> > She has a Bladderstone, we think it is a Struvit Stone, because > > under Vitamin C, for the surgery (an?sthetic), the stone looked > > suddenly "easier" so our Vet wanted to wait.> >> > Is anybody out there who treated his stonepiggie with Chinese herbs? > > Is the medicine "Eurologist " known in the USA?> >> > / jinqiancao, lygodii japonici, dianthi, semen abutiloni seu malvae, > > folium pyrrosia, semen plantaginis, talcum endithelium corneum > > gigeraiae galli, glycyrrhizae uralensis.> >> > /These herbs should be able to put away all kind of stones.> >> > Do you have experience with this? Is it possible and not dangerous?> >> > This is the HP, where you can buy the Eurologist, there is an > > englisch version too! Only must klick on the right flag.> >> > www.naturheilkunde-bei-tieren.de> >> > Please apologize my terrible English. Many years I have not written > > in this language! I`m sorry!> >> > I would be happy, if I can get answers.> >> > Thanks very much in advance> >> > To you and your little ones all the best!> >> > Best wishes from nightly Switzerland> >> > Petra K. and the heartbreakers> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > Stones mailing list> > Stones at gpigs-database.org> > http://gpigs-database.org/mailman/listinfo/stones_gpigs-database.org> > > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Stones mailing list> Stones at gpigs-database.org> http://gpigs-database.org/mailman/listinfo/stones_gpigs-database.org> > > End of Stones Digest, Vol 45, Issue 1> *************************************
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