[Stones] Stones Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2

Evelyn Baker ebak at ca.inter.net
Mon Feb 19 22:06:10 EST 2007


Perhaps this should be forwarded to the gpdd.org as well.  Doris  
should not be in so much pain after her operation. There is something  
wrong.  I wish I could help you more. I do hope there is someone else  
on the list who can help. I do wish you luck.

Evelyn

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> ----- Forwarded message from suziec222 at yahoo.co.uk -----
>      Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:42:30 +0000 (GMT)
>      From: Suzanne Caine <suziec222 at yahoo.co.uk>
> Reply-To: Suzanne Caine <suziec222 at yahoo.co.uk>
>   Subject: Re: Bladderstone op successful? Seeing vet today- need
> advice please re: next step
>        To: stones-owner at gpigs-database.org
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> Hi,
>    I would like to join this group -please can forward my message to
> the group and advise how I can join.
>    Thanks,
>    Suzanne
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> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:32:47 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Suzanne Caine <suziec222 at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Bladderstone op successful? Seeing vet today- need advice  
> please re:
> next step
> To: Stones at gpigs-database.org
>
>    Hi,
>
>    I am seeing the vet at 10am today (currently 1am) and I am hoping
> that someone is online and will be able to help. I have printed off
> some articles to read, but there is so much information.
>
>    Doris is a five-year female guinea, who has suffered from cystitis
> on and off, and bladder sludge (I didn?t realise that bladder sludge
> could lead to bladder stones, but do now).
>
>    I came back from holiday to discover that she was in a bad way,
> barely able to urinate. The vet kept her in the next day and operated,
> removing a substantial bladderstone on Thurs 8 Feb. She was and still
> is on 0.5ml of Baytril twice a day.  Things were going ok until Mon 12
> when some stitches gave way and her intestines bulged out inside her.
> She was operated on again and given tape/stitches used in dogs, so it
> wouldn?t give way. She was given a drug to stimulate her guts and
> again the following day Tues 13 and Thurs 15. I have also started
> giving her two drops of Metacam for pain relief since Thurs 15.
>
>    After the first op, she was urinating freely albeit with a lot of
> blood and some clotting. I was told that this would go after a while,
> and it is getting there over the last couple of days.
>
>    My main concern is that she was eating, showing an interest in food
> and starting to move around her home after the first op. However she
> is not doing this at all after the second op. I am still syringe
> feeding her every few hours (2nd op on 12th, now 18th).  Although she
> will eat some dried hay/veg whilst syringing, she is not moving out
> from her igloo at all, or eating/drinking by herself. The urine output
> has decreased and feeling grainy (the vet said that the bladder had a
> lot of sludge that they flushed out ? so I am baffled why it is like
> this). She is in pain, arching her back up on all fours, with her ears
> pulled right back when urinating and when pooing ? which only goes
> half way out (not sure if this is normal, and gradually drops?). The
> poo itself has become stringed with mucus today. Not normal size etc
> but I was expecting this from the syringe feeding. She is depressed
> and obviously not feeling good at all.
>
>    Questions  The vet has not analysed the urine, blood or the
> bladderstone- should I request this?
>    (I have the stone in a plastic test tube? will it still be fresh
> enough to be analysed?)
>
>    Things are not getting better as time goes on, which is worrying
> me. Am I expecting too much too soon? How long does it normally take
> to recover?
>
>    How can Doris have sludge, reduced urine flow if the bladderstone
> was removed and bladder flushed?
>
>    Should I ask for Bactrim (Septrin) instead of Baytril?
>
>    Should I ask for polycitra?(does this break up sludge?)
>
>    I will look up low calcium food, but if anyone can direct me to a
> list, or give some definite veggies to avoid that would be really
> helpful.
>
>    Any other advice or questions that I should ask the vet would be
> much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,Suzanne
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> Hi,
>   I would like to join this group -please can forward my message to  
> the group and advise how I can join.
>   Thanks,
>   Suzanne
>
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> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:32:47 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Suzanne Caine <suziec222 at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Bladderstone op successful? Seeing vet today- need advice  
> please re:
> next step
> To: Stones at gpigs-database.org
>
>   Hi,
>
>   I am seeing the vet at 10am today (currently 1am) and I am hoping  
> that someone is online and will be able to help. I have printed off  
> some articles to read, but there is so much information.
>
>   Doris is a five-year female guinea, who has suffered from  
> cystitis on and off, and bladder sludge (I didn?t realise that  
> bladder sludge could lead to bladder stones, but do now).
>
>   I came back from holiday to discover that she was in a bad way,  
> barely able to urinate. The vet kept her in the next day and  
> operated, removing a substantial bladderstone on Thurs 8 Feb. She  
> was and still is on 0.5ml of Baytril twice a day.  Things were  
> going ok until Mon 12 when some stitches gave way and her  
> intestines bulged out inside her. She was operated on again and  
> given tape/stitches used in dogs, so it wouldn?t give way. She was  
> given a drug to stimulate her guts and again the following day Tues  
> 13 and Thurs 15. I have also started giving her two drops of  
> Metacam for pain relief since Thurs 15.
>
>   After the first op, she was urinating freely albeit with a lot of  
> blood and some clotting. I was told that this would go after a  
> while, and it is getting there over the last couple of days.
>
>   My main concern is that she was eating, showing an interest in  
> food and starting to move around her home after the first op.  
> However she is not doing this at all after the second op. I am  
> still syringe feeding her every few hours (2nd op on 12th, now  
> 18th).  Although she will eat some dried hay/veg whilst syringing,  
> she is not moving out from her igloo at all, or eating/drinking by  
> herself. The urine output has decreased and feeling grainy (the vet  
> said that the bladder had a lot of sludge that they flushed out ?  
> so I am baffled why it is like this). She is in pain, arching her  
> back up on all fours, with her ears pulled right back when  
> urinating and when pooing ? which only goes half way out (not sure  
> if this is normal, and gradually drops?). The poo itself has become  
> stringed with mucus today. Not normal size etc but I was expecting  
> this from the syringe feeding. She is depressed and obviously not  
> feeling good at all.
>
>   Questions  The vet has not analysed the urine, blood or the  
> bladderstone- should I request this?
>   (I have the stone in a plastic test tube? will it still be fresh  
> enough to be analysed?)
>
>   Things are not getting better as time goes on, which is worrying  
> me. Am I expecting too much too soon? How long does it normally  
> take to recover?
>
>   How can Doris have sludge, reduced urine flow if the bladderstone  
> was removed and bladder flushed?
>
>   Should I ask for Bactrim (Septrin) instead of Baytril?
>
>   Should I ask for polycitra?(does this break up sludge?)
>
>   I will look up low calcium food, but if anyone can direct me to a  
> list, or give some definite veggies to avoid that would be really  
> helpful.
>
>   Any other advice or questions that I should ask the vet would be  
> much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,Suzanne
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